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Dadaniao1
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ex374 ansible automation exam is badly designed and has many bugs

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Hi,

 

I have taken 4 rhel exam, and  I personally think the exam ex374 which I took today is very badly designed.

 

1) Many questions do not have clear meanings, which makes it difficult to understand.

2) System environment is not correct, I failed to upload a collection to the hub for technique errors.  The tasks also complain about python environment not correct. Those settings should be fixed before we can take the exam.

3) Many tasks are not related to do374 course, and many important skills in do374 are not tested. That makes it ridiculous to take the do374 course.

I have been attending the do374 course, and I can finish all the lab assignment without any reference material. I do not think tasks failed due my errors.

I strong recommend Red Hat to request their employee to do the exam, and  fix those  bugs.

 

Appreciate feedback if any of you have taken the ex374 exam.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Chetan_Tiwary_
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Hello @ianbe01 !

Please provide your feedback here : https://rhtapps.redhat.com/comments/ and request it to pass it on to the exam development team.  I donot agree that people working close to  Red Hat will know to answer. It is the same for all Red Hatters as well. 

Thanks !

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ianbe01
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Hi

 

I already raised the issues , and they come back with nothing.

" ...There are differences in your answers between the first and second exam, which is why you got different scores. unfortunately I'm not able to inform that differences because we need to talk about exam questions/answers and the agreements of the exam do not allow that..."

So much for assistance in learning....

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Trevor
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Thanks for the alert on this exam.  I have on my list of exams to attempt, but will put it on hold until resolution to these bugs that you say exist.

Trevor "Red Hat Evangelist" Chandler
Travis
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@Trevor -

If you are ready you should defintely be able to take and pass the exam. If you have taken the course and thoroughly understood the material then you should have a very good chance of passing the exam.

What I will state is that some of the "newer" things might be challenging such as building collections or your own execution environments. I would definitely suggest to you that you experiment with building the EEs and see what other things you can try and how you can change or simplify the build process.

I will also say that there were a lot of carryovers from the EX447/DO447 course as the DO374 is the replacement course for that course. Almost all of the same topics are taught in the DO374 with the exception of the installation and use of Tower/Controller which is now in the DO467 course.

One thing that might help you and that you can use for your RHA students is:

https://github.com/tmichett/do374

I don't have my good ADOC book for everything, but I do have lots of working demos around this repository.

Travis Michette, RHCA XIII
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SENIOR TECHNICAL INSTRUCTOR / CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR AND EXAMINER
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ianbe01
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Hi Travis

thanks for your notes.

The exam is buggy because the questions are not clear. So , yes, if you've been taking the old exams, been doing this a few years amongst other people who have taken this exam you can sort of "read between the lines". Otherwise, you read as is, and answer what's asked and get zero.

Do you have demos for the git and filter question?

Thanks

Ian

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Travis
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@ianbe01 -

Yes there are both Git and Filter examples there in the repository that I use when I teach the courses.

One demo for filters can be found here: do374/Demos/CH7/Variable_Filters at main · tmichett/do374 · GitHub

do374/Demos/CH7/Demo at main · tmichett/do374 · GitHub

do374/Demos/CH7/DO447_Examples at main · tmichett/do374 · GitHub

do374/Demos/CH7/Loop_Demo/demo.yml at main · tmichett/do374 · GitHub

No real examples on using Git, but some stuff I showed students to help setup and streamline git.

do374/Demos/CH1/git at main · tmichett/do374 · GitHub

 

As both @Chetan_Tiwary_ and @Henry_Maine have mentioned, please send some of the specific feedback to https://rhtapps.redhat.com/comments/ as this will go to the team responsible for the exams. Even better, when taking the exam, if some questions are unclear, submit feedback directly as part of the exam in the "Submit Feedback" portion. This will allow feedback to be provided directly regarding the question and how it is worded. After that, still submit the feedback to the Comments Form and let them know you have more detailed and specific feedback attached to your exam.

I have worked with the exam team regarding some of the exam questions and getting them fixed in the past and I totally understand your frustration. It is sometimes difficult to create questions that everyone understands across multiple languages and geos, so the more feedback we get the better we can adjust the wording. Again, the only way to provide feedback is through the comments form and the "Submit Feedback" portion of the exam. The exam proctors have no control of the content and cannot directly/indirectly change anything on the exam.

Travis Michette, RHCA XIII
https://rhtapps.redhat.com/verify?certId=111-134-086
SENIOR TECHNICAL INSTRUCTOR / CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR AND EXAMINER
Red Hat Certification + Training
ianbe01
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Hi Travis

ok, I felt I slam dunked the exam and looking at your demos, there is one filter I could have used to be acurate, but can't see how ommitting that from a play that works scores a zero. Unless I'm missing the whole filter scenario.

I'm already talking to RedHat Certs team and am waiting for a response before I reattempt.

Thanks for sharing your notes.

Best regards

Ian

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Trevor
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Okay Mr. Travis Michette, your endorsement is good enough for me!!! 

Also, thank you for sharing the do374 resources.

Trevor "Red Hat Evangelist" Chandler
dkcbk
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Hi.

I successfully passed the exam EX374 today (got 244/300 in the first attempt). I didn't notice any bugs. Some instructions are a bit misleading, but it is possible to complete the exam, you just need to be well prepared.

Trevor
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Congrats dkcbk on successfully completing the EX374 exam!!!

You gave some of the best advice, if not the best advice, and
that was "just need to be well prepared".  I absolutely applaud
those words!!!

Also dkcbk, if you don't mind, share with the readers the 
resource(s) that you used to prepare for the EX374 exam.

 

Trevor "Red Hat Evangelist" Chandler
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