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Deanna
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Questions about getting ready for your Red Hat remote exam?

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**Our subject matters experts in the Red Hat Learning Community will not be assisting with tasks related to scheduling exams. 

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shefeeqyr
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Hi @JS_Learning@JimHardy 

We are not aware of any known issue with Lenovo P50s yet. I will however check if support tickets were raised by other candidates using P50s. 

Publishing the checksum of each remote exam live USB image release is something that is being considered. I don't have a timeline for this at this point though.

Size of the image can vary between each releases and we have set a requirement of a USB drive of 8 GB and above. We did have a 4.2 GB image briefly, but was pulled back as it needed a bit more work.

If the steps followed in the instructions document do not produce the desired results, it could be broadly due to a) an incomplete/failed ISO to USB write process or b) Incompatibility between the candidate's hardware and the remote exam live USB.

I would totally avoid advising customers to do troubleshooting at a grub/bootloader level to resolve it for the risk of breaking something else in the process. You can try a different laptop/desktop, try to write the ISO another time, from a different computer/operating system etc. For instance, we recommend using Fedora Media Writer to create a live usb in Fedora or Windows. Fedora Media Writer returns a success message if everything went fine. 

In a worse case scenario of incompatibility and lack of alternative computers, candidates have an option to switch their exam eligibility between two modalities - Remote Exam and Testing Center (conventional Kiosks at partner locations), as long as you reschedule at least 24 hours before the exam start time.

Regards,

Shefeeq

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JimHardy
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Speaking to your two broad possibilities: (a) incomplete write to the USB and (b) incompatibility between hardware and test environment.

ISO to USB write process

My laptop is running RHEL 7.  I downloaded the ISO to that laptop, and ran the suggested dd command to write the ISO to the USB drive.  The dd command seemed to finish successfully. 
(I thought I had saved my dd output somewhere, but having trouble finding it now.)
As I mentioned in the previous comment, the checksum of the file on my laptop matches.  This seems a pretty rock-solid copy process.  Note that I did *NOT* pre-format the USB or anything: I just assumed the DD process would destroy whatever was there and write from the beginning.

I'll check with a different USB. I'll also try writing it from the desktop using a different method (other than dd).

Incompatible hardware / exam environment 

Bluntly, this seems impossible.  The laptop is already running RHEL7!  It should be pretty much guaranteed to be compatible.

For the desktop: this is info that I didn't have when I first commented last night).  On the desktop where I worked-around the boot issue using grub commands:

  1. I ran the exam compatibility test last night, and it passed
  2. Then today Iactually  took an exam on it.  The environment worked fine.  No issues whatsoever: chat with proctor, monitor via webcam, exam loading, VM access, etc etc etc.  So that seems to completely rule out compatibility issues on the desktop.

(My actual performance on the exam is another story...)

The success of the exam compatibility test, AND the exam itself, raises doubt about whether the ISO-to-USB copy was bad.  How bad could it have been, if everything other than booting worked perfectly?  That's a very specific and restrained write failure.

Switching between exam modalities

Switching between modalities can be difficult in the current Covid climate.  I live in Maryland; the local testing center has been closed for several months.  Reopening date unknown.  Travel between states to a different testing facility raises other potential issues.

For some of us, remote testing is by far the most practical method, for the near future.  (Which is why you guys rolled it out in the first place!)  Not so easy to switch modalities.

And I don't really believe there is an incompatibility issue here.  Something else is going on.  Does the Sandisk Cruzer protect a partition or some sectors at its beginning?  Do the dd did not start where it was supposed to?

Or is there something wrong with the ISO?  Doesn't work properly with UEFI systems, or something?

JS_Learning
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Hi @JimHardy,

I don't know where you saw some information about the iso size that led you to expect a size of 4GB. All I know is that the iso sometimes updated, and the size change a bit (well not from 1GB to 4GB). Possible the 4GB size was very early version for a pilot phase.

Checking the file integrity and ensuring the file is not corrupted, complete and the correct one is something that can be solved by checking the checksum and proper versionning. My colleague @shefeeqyr is looking into the topic.

At the moment, I tested early August, the working file was:

1267597312 (1.2G) rhrexboot.iso 

The sha512 checksum was:

5d37b4560beb9392106d36986d95cca2670c94253bd6f9cb1681d5a0727f067c1304ec6a9d588e995e2afad9efca12983511eedf06c6b01ac89e6c67fc1530f5

(you need to type: sha512sum rhrexboot.iso).

Since I tested that one, and I verified its integrity, if the file has not been updated since then, that should be the same checksum, and it should prove it's not a corrupted file).

The correct URL to download the latest version of the Remote Exam iso is here:

https://static.redhat.com/downloads/training-certification/rhrexboot.iso 

 

Anyway, what USB key are you using? I suspect the issue might be somewhere else?

 

Cheers,

 

JimHardy
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My checksum matches!  Thanks.

Really, this checksum info should have been provided on the download page for the ISO, as is standard practice with distribution of installers.

On reading the first reply, I realize that I had misunderstood something.  I had inferred that the ISO itself was 4Gb.  I guess what is actually happening is that the ISO is smaller, and it loads the ~4Gb OS onto the USB.  That makes more sense.  My expectation was wrong.

But it still should boot!  My USB is a brand-new SanDisk Cruzer 32Gb, fresh out of the box.  I'll try loading it on another USB.  But I'd be surprised if the flash drive itself is the issue, esp since I was able to finish booting after performing the grub workaround.

 

 

 

JS_Learning
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Hi @JimHardy ,

I agree for the checksum (and even the versionning should be added). A @shefeeqyr said, it's work in progress.

I agree it should boot, if flashing the image was properly done, if the hardware is compatible and if there are no restrictions, as it could be on some corporate laptops... A lot of possible root cause!

It booted properly for many candidates, the key would be to identify why that did not work in your case.

Indeed the USB key seems decent enough, sufficient space, and probably fast enough read/write speed...

 

 

 

VaughnV
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I tried to boot into the redhat remote exam environment via my usb.

I was sent to the grub> prompt.

I typed "exit".

I proceeded to enter the environment to run my compatibility test.

I hope this helps someone.

dunay
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Hello

I have created my bootable USB key for attempting a remote exam but I can't boot into the Red Hat Remote Exam Environment. It is stuck at 100% for 30+ minutes

Picture of the stuck boot : https://i.imgur.com/OWnstul.jpg

I am encoutering this problem on my ThinkPad T470s, but the same USB key successfully boot into the exam environment on a HP Elitebook (however I can't use that one for the exam).

I've also tried to boot this live USB on another ThinkPad T470 but the same exact problem occurs.

What should I do ? Did someone already encounter this ?

Thank you for your help

 

VsevolodZ
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Hi, I have similar problem, but in my case on Asus ultrabook and it eventually loads after 10-15 mins hanging. I also tried diffrent hardware and this hang is the best I can get. Would like to hear a recomendations/solution as well.

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dunay
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I have tried several times booting the environment on my ThinkPad but I couldn't have it to boot even once

Very strange behavior. I don't know if we can get in touch directly with Red Hat for technical problems like those

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Rilindo
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How much memory do you have on the laptops you tested on?

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